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ILLEGAL & LEGAL IMMIGRANTS RIGHTS AND NEWS

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What Would Happen To The U.S. If All Illegal Immigrants Left?

Could we afford to live here if they all left?

There are several proposals for immigration reform being discussed now. They say they will solve the problem of so many illegal immigrants coming to and staying in this country. Some are offering amnesty, others guest worker cards, others temporary cards.

Some people are talking about rounding them up and sending them all back to where ever they came from.

How would we do that? First, how would we find all of them? If we were able to find them, who would do the processing and paperwork to organize the deportation? Would we hire planes and buses and buy them tickets to go home? It sounds like it would be impossible and also impossibly expensive to do this for the millions who are here, some for many years.

If the roads were filled with buses and the skies with planes taking all these people out of this country, what would happen then? Who would do the work they were doing here? There would be a huge shortage of workers for farming, construction, landscaping, restaurants and tourism. Last season, growers could not get enough workers to harvest their crops and this year is worse. Prices of everything would rise dramatically and some produce would not be available at all, because it would be rotting in the fields.


These people take jobs that most other residents won’t take. The pay is low, the hours are long, the work is very hard and often dangerous, the benefits are non-existent. They often are housed in bunkhouses or sharing trailers, away from their families, living in conditions few of us would tolerate. Assuming they make about $6.00 an hour, what would the wage have to be raised to for any of us to accept the work and conditions? $12? $20? If growers had to pay two or three or four times the present wage just to harvest, how much would lettuce and apples and tomatoes cost in the stores?

If landscaping companies, contractors and restaurants had to pay top wages to get the work done, how much would we have to pay to buy or repair a house or get the lawn cut or buy a meal? If motel and hotel maids and janitors were paid more, would we be able to afford a room?

If these workers were allowed to work legally, with a guest worker card or temporary worker visa, or whatever the different proposals call them, they would have to be paid at least the minimum wage and would be paying taxes. Paying the minimum wage or the prevailing wage would probably raise prices a little, but not as much as raising wages so the rest of us would do the work. An added bonus might be discovering that some of these workers are highly educated and skilled and are taking these manual labor jobs because they can’t legally get a better job.

If companies can’t find enough workers who are here legally, they should be able to offer these jobs to others willing and able to do them. But these people should have some type of document; they have to be paying taxes, have to be able to work and live safely, have to be able to be located when the immigration department wants to know where they are.

Undocumented workers are exploited by unscrupulous employers. They are exploited precisely because they are undocumented. These employers know they can do almost anything to them and won’t be reported. If these employers were made to follow the laws, it would also help solve the problem.

If people needed these temporary visas to work here, the ones that are crossing the border illegally would probably stop coming. It would be impossible to send all the illegal people back home now, we have to find a better way to deal with this problem.

We beg for immigration reform and complain about illegal immigrants, but are we willing to pay more for almost everything we need and use in our lives if they are deported?

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8:01 AM

This post leaves out some pretty serious issues. Although it addresses the direct costs of illegal immigrants (wage difference vs. American worker), the indirect costs of supporting an immigrant workforce are ignored. Also, to make a case for the cost of deporting immigrants "all at once" is ridiculous because it is an infeasible concept.    



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The author has neglected the costs associated with hosting illegal immigrants in a country. (school, health care, crime, and displaced legal workers)

As for produce prices, a very small portion of the cost is the labor. The majority of the cost is materials and transportation. Think about how much labor it takesa to pick ONE head of lettuce. Ok, now tripple the cost of that labor. You added MAYBE a few cents to the lettuce.

If a job is difficult don't the workers deserve the benefit of a free market in the form of higher wages? I would gladly pay a little more for produce if it meant an American worker could earn a decent wage doing it.

The idea that there are job no american will take is just a stupid political talking point. Any job can be filled if the pay is reasonable for the labor demanded. Ask a crab fisherman.    



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Personally know some construction crews that hire illegals and pay them WAY over minimum wage, talking 15-20 and hour. This is simply because they do good work and most Americans aren't willing to work as hard. But saying that construction cost would increase much is doubtful, though you might lose a lot in quality.    



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Personally know some construction crews that hire illegals and pay them WAY over minimum wage, talking 15-20 and hour. This is simply because they do good work and most Americans aren't willing to work as hard. But saying that construction cost would increase much is doubtful, though you might lose a lot in quality.    



10:31 AM

I think there is a huge misconception when people say " how much illegal immigration is costing the US." Tell me in what things is the government paying that illegal immigrants don't pay for? Illegal or not, they pay taxes, they pay bills, they pay anything the legals pay, so by comparing both, losing illegal immigrants would be devastating for the United States.    



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Sorry Eduardo you are incorrect again (10:31 comment)-
Illegal Immigrants don't pay taxes other then sales taxes. They aren't paying state or fed income tax. And while they may pay bills, they also send money to families outside of the US. So they aren't contributing to the infrastructure in a significant way.

As a legal Immigrant, I'm offended by people that come to this country via a shortcut. If I had to (and am proud of) becoming a citizen legally, everyone else should.    



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"The author has neglected the costs associated with hosting illegal immigrants in a country. (school, health care, crime, and displaced legal workers)"

What makes you think that the money saved by deporting illegal mexicans will go towards resolving the problems caused by their absence?

Instead of having a crisis in health care, you'll have a crisis in farming.

Deportation just shuffles around the existing monetary problems without actually solving the root causes...    



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I'm not at all in favor of illegal immigration, but let's be realistic, in that many illegals ARE paying taxes. They couldn't get hired without a SSN, and although it's fake or someone else's, the money is being withheld for all the relevent taxes.

This of course assumes they're not being paid completely under the table, which they might be.

The proposals that have made the most sense to me is having strict penalites for not having your company's employee paperwork organized. The courts have ruled that employers are not peace officers and are not able to distinguish fake papers and IDs, but there could be a better system of checking for fakes. I can't believe that the state and federal governments couldn't get Oracle to make a database that every employer would have to check against to see if the SSN and state ID number they're using actually matches the employee they've just hired. It's a case of the people with the abilities not caring enough to go through with the solutions.

Once you require the companies to do the check, you also require them to save printouts of the database result, which could then be audited.

I would bet that the 4th amendment doesn't protect against this kind of audit, as the IRS doesn't care to hear your whining about getting audited for taxes. If they want to audit, it's happening.

The point is, if the attraction for moving here illegally almost disappeared, then people would stop coming. That's much easier than trying to ID who're illegal on the street and catching them.    



12:22 AM

Why ship them home? That costs too much. Execute them instead. If we executed Illegals in a swift and sure manner .... there would be almost no one willing to try and sneak in.    



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Most of us are immigrants; legal or ilegal. Most of our progenitors probably came to the so called 'freedom land' to settle running away from lack, disease, poverty and war.
This is God owns Land.

Please let there be a reform in the immigration policy and allow honest and law abiding immigratnts to stay.
We need them.    



6:34 PM

illegals bring food to our table every day.by working hard at the agricultural land, salaries what?$6per hour with this economy is hard to have a good daily life.who so, know tell me are you working for that amount?    



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